I can't help but wonder what Justice McClellan and Stuart Angus thinks of the whole affair. It must be as frustrating as it is baffling as to why the Society won't just do what needs doing.
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Way to make me look stupid . . .
by Coded Logic inwhen the arc made their recommendations to the society last year i genuinely thought we'd see some real changes.
oh sure, i expected a lot of feet dragging, double talk, and general nonsense - but at the end of the day i was certain the society would do what they legally had to and then run around claiming:.
) these new policies and procedures aren't really new we've always done them.
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Way to make me look stupid . . .
by Coded Logic inwhen the arc made their recommendations to the society last year i genuinely thought we'd see some real changes.
oh sure, i expected a lot of feet dragging, double talk, and general nonsense - but at the end of the day i was certain the society would do what they legally had to and then run around claiming:.
) these new policies and procedures aren't really new we've always done them.
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When the ARC made their recommendations to the Society last year I genuinely thought we'd see some real changes. Oh sure, I expected a lot of feet dragging, double talk, and general nonsense - but at the end of the day I was certain the Society would do what they legally had to and then run around claiming:
A.) These new policies and procedures aren't really new we've always done themB.) JWs have the best practices and policies out of any group ever, aren't we great? Let's all pat ourselves on the back and go tell the R&F how awesome we all are!
But what I did NOT expect was to end up where we are today. After watching the ARC last night I can't help but feel deflated this morning. I had hoped the Society was finally going to get it's act together and start taking some concrete steps to prevent and address sexual child abuse. Instead, they've decided to do next to nothing and only tacitly update their policies and procedures. It's so sad.
The ARC has tremendous expertise and resources that the Society could tap into. Many organisations pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in consulting fees for the type of council the ARC is giving to them for FREE! It's just so damn tragic to watch the Society squander an opportunity for long term change on the cheap merchandise of saving face today. They won't admit they did anything wrong. And they refuse to make the necessary changes to protect children from sexual abuse.
Saying they "abhor child abuse" means nothing when they do nothing to try and stop it. The Watchtower Society is truly a wicked system of things.
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I wrote to Mr. Angus Stewart regarding the "inactive" status claims made by the Watchtower at the ARC
by EdenOne inthis is the email i have just sent to mr. stewart angus, who has been conducting the questioning of the jw leaders during the australian royal commission dealing with child abuse cases among the jehovah's witnesses, concerning the claims made that a jehovah witness who wishes to walk away from the organization can simply become inactive and avoid being shunned:.
dear mr. angus stewart,
i have followed with interest the videos of the arc regarding the jehovah's witnesses in australia.
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Coded Logic
Very well stated.
I too was considering writing a letter to the ARC - though my tack was going to be slightly different. I was thinking of writing something along the lines of someone who leaves and joins a different church could be disfellowshipped as well.
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New Letter from the GB
by Coded Logic indear brothers and sisters,.
it has come to our attention that many you, especially in the developed world, have chosen to outfit your homes with artificial lighting.
while there is nothing wrong with husbands wishing to see more clearly while studying - or for sisters to want to add some extra lighting when cleaning the home - we need to be careful how we choose to use this technology.
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Old Light: having the lights on at night is forbidden
New Light: since the days get longer and shorter during the winter and summer it is okay to use lights at night for short periods of time right before and after sunrise/sunset.
New-new light: lighting "fractions" are okay. Red bulbs, black lights, etc. Anything that isn't using the entire color spectrum.
New-new-new light: brothers and sisters must now start reporting their lighting cards clearly documenting when they have the lights on and off - especially in the bedroom.
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New Letter from the GB
by Coded Logic indear brothers and sisters,.
it has come to our attention that many you, especially in the developed world, have chosen to outfit your homes with artificial lighting.
while there is nothing wrong with husbands wishing to see more clearly while studying - or for sisters to want to add some extra lighting when cleaning the home - we need to be careful how we choose to use this technology.
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Dear Brothers and Sisters,
It has come to our attention that many you, especially in the developed world, have chosen to outfit your homes with artificial lighting. While there is nothing wrong with husbands wishing to see more clearly while studying - or for sisters to want to add some extra lighting when cleaning the home - we need to be careful how we choose to use this technology. Yes indeed, it is crucial for us to ask ourselves when is it appropriate and inappropriate to use artificial lighting!
For example, would it be acceptable to fully light our homes after sunset? Many in the world choose to extend daylight inside their houses by many long hours well into the night. But ask yourself, how would Jehovah feel about this? Consider, for a moment, the account in Genesis in which we learn that Jehovah made a division between night and day. He called the darkness night and the light day. Would fully lighting our homes at night show we respect this arrangement? Would using the night for daytime activities really be appropriate?
Consider too that many bad places in the world use artificial lighting - sometimes all night long - like casinos, brothels, harry potter conventions, etc. Surely we would not want to make our homes anything like these debase institutions of the world!
Of course, there are appropriate times and places for artificial lights. We know from the Bible that olive lamps were used to guide people through the night. So a little lighting at night is not necessarily a bad thing. So long as we are not disrespectfully trying to turn the night into day.
In conclusion, we know that Satan is ever trying to deceive us. He is even known as the "shinning one". Let us not fall prey to his traps and instead use discernment when using artificial lighting in our homes.
Sincerely,
The Governing Borg
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Lock him up!
by Coded Logic inin 2009 businessman frederic bourke was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison for violating the us foreign and corrupt practices act.
the fcpa explicitly states that when us companies and citizens do business overseas they can not profit off of corruption.
even if you yourself are not doing anything illegal - if you're partner is bribing officials or misusing their power - as bourke's partners were in azerbaijan - than you're liable.. guess who else is doing business in azerbaijan (as recently as january)?
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Lock him up!
by Coded Logic inin 2009 businessman frederic bourke was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison for violating the us foreign and corrupt practices act.
the fcpa explicitly states that when us companies and citizens do business overseas they can not profit off of corruption.
even if you yourself are not doing anything illegal - if you're partner is bribing officials or misusing their power - as bourke's partners were in azerbaijan - than you're liable.. guess who else is doing business in azerbaijan (as recently as january)?
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In 2009 businessman Frederic Bourke was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison for violating the US Foreign and Corrupt Practices Act. The FCPA explicitly states that when US companies and citizens do business overseas they can NOT profit off of corruption. Even if you yourself are not doing anything illegal - if you're partner is bribing officials or misusing their power - as Bourke's partners were in Azerbaijan - than you're liable.
Guess who else is doing business in Azerbaijan (as recently as January)? That's right, Donald J. Trump. And his local partner in the country was Anar Mammadov - a man with a long history of corruption and who has links to the Iranian National Guard.
It's time to subpoena Trump's taxes. As with any corrupt leader - all we need to do is follow the money.
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Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?
by kpop inalone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.
after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.
" shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .
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Wow Crofty, call me biased, but I think you absolutely tore his argument to shreds. I especially enjoyed your analogy about knowing the earth isn't flat. This really goes to the heart of a lot of the reverse arguments from ignorance that SBF attempts to bring into his conversations - aka - we don't know everything therefore we can't say anything definitively.
But, despite any bias real or imagined, I have to say truly a good job to both of you. You both consistently talked to each other instead of past each other. Also, very refreshing to see a lengthy discussion like this without it deteriorating into a series of ad hominen attacks. I hope to read more from you guys.
At the end of the day I don't rate debates by winners and losers. But on how informative I thought the discussion was. Good job again! :)
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Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?
by kpop inalone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.
after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.
" shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .
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There's a Sam Harris protégé right there: as verbose as he is unreflective and unaccountably certain of his views.
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I thought Theoretical BS was very concise and to the point in his video (the complete opposite of verbose). It's also clear he's put a lot of thought into what he wanted to say as he had multiple lines of reasoning to support his conclusions. And he even pondered over the reasons for his own interest in the subject (aka he was reflective). I'm also not sure why you're stating he's "unaccountably certain of his views" as his level of confidence in his claims was never addressed in the video.
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Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?
by kpop inalone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.
after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.
" shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .
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Coded Logic
You're an atheist!!! Ohh, that it!
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